Carlton Seconds 1930s V1 (SLV 122_162)

Charles Boyles Collection SLV
Link to Photo at SLV Website
SLV Accession no. H2008.122/162

Team: Carlton (VFL)
Location: Unknown
Date: Probably 1936

Ron Savange, Top Row, fourth from left
Arch Shields - top row, extreme right
Possibly Charlie McInnes - Middle Row - far Left
Bert Butler, Front row, Far left


This is a Carlton (VFL) Seconds team photographed at Princes Park, circa mid-late thirties.
At least three of the players seen here (players fourth and fifth from the left in the top row, and the player on the extreme right of the middle row) also appear in H2008.122/156. The player seen extreme left of the front row also appears in the front row of Photo 21 version 13 and the front row of Photo 21 version 14. The fourth player from the left in the top row is, I believe, Ron Savage who made his senior debut at Carlton as a ruckman in 1938 (for biography, see H2008.122/143

The player group seen in this photo is the same group seen in H2008.122/239. The two photographs have been snapped moments apart, although the latter (122/239) has emulsion damage on the left-hand side which obscures one player (and also blurring on the right-hand side). Photo 47 version 3 on the other hand is quite clear. Several officials not seen in 122/239 appear in Photo 47 version 3. This photo is related to both Photo 21 version 2 and Photo 47 version 4 by virtue of overlap of some players. Eighteen players. White shorts. Only a few spectators.

Some of the players in this photo appear in other (Boyles) photos of Carlton Seconds teams from this period. For example, the player fourth from left in top row of players (Ron Savage?), the player fourth from left in middle row, the player on extreme right of middle row, and the player on extreme left of front row. The official second from left in very top row appears numerous times in Carlton Seconds teams from the period.

Further Work Needed

Bert Butler
Using the existing image of Bert Butler at http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php?page=Bert+Butler The player in the front row appers to be the same person.

Cyril Mann
Cyril Mann possibly Centre Row third from right

Duplicates - Near Identical Photos

122_239 - Carlton Seconds, circa mid-late thirties V2 - Slight Variation

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